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Bob Duff
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.10.2014

Mar 16 @ 8:31 PM ET
Bob Duff: Athanasiou making most of limited time Rookie forward Andreas Athanasiou will get more ice time as he proves he can be consistent defensively.
magmoo
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Garf is expendabilittle., HI
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 17 @ 4:53 AM ET
March to oblivion - that's good.
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Mar 17 @ 7:36 AM ET
Right now, who are your protected players for a 2017 expansion. 7 forwards. 3 defenseman and 1 goalie?

I know we don't know what will happen with no moves but ignore that for now. Just used the discussed rules for now. If they have 2 years of pro hockey, they must be protected.
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Mar 17 @ 7:42 AM ET
Right now, who are your protected players for a 2017 expansion. 7 forwards. 3 defenseman and 1 goalie?

I know we don't know what will happen with no moves but ignore that for now. Just used the discussed rules for now. If they have 2 years of pro hockey, they must be protected.

- porkchops1977



My picks are:

Forwards: Larkin, Mantha, Zetterberg, Tatar, Nyquist, Athanasiou, Sheahan (if Datsyuk resigns before the expansion draft then, Datsyuk gets protected).
Defense: Dekeyser, Ouellet, Marchenko
Goalie: Mrazek
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 17 @ 9:01 AM ET
My picks are:

Forwards: Larkin, Mantha, Zetterberg, Tatar, Nyquist, Athanasiou, Sheahan (if Datsyuk resigns before the expansion draft then, Datsyuk gets protected).
Defense: Dekeyser, Ouellet, Marchenko
Goalie: Mrazek

- porkchops1977

Larkin. Tatar. Nyquist. AA. Mantha. Holmstrom. Bertuzzi.

Dekeyser. Russo. Who cares.

Mrazek.
TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
My picks are:

Forwards: Larkin, Mantha, Zetterberg, Tatar, Nyquist, Athanasiou, Sheahan (if Datsyuk resigns before the expansion draft then, Datsyuk gets protected).
Defense: Dekeyser, Ouellet, Marchenko
Goalie: Mrazek

- porkchops1977


Zetterberg, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Athanasiou, Mantha, and Larkin.

Kronwall, DeKeyser, and Russo.

Petr Griffin

It's sad that apart from DeKe we have no must-keep defensemen...
Zmloste
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.01.2013

Mar 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
Larkin. Tatar. Nyquist. AA. Mantha. Holmstrom. Bertuzzi.

Dekeyser. Russo. Who cares.

Mrazek.

- Feds91Stammer


Will holmstrom even have the 2 years pro experience?
houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
My picks are:

Forwards: Larkin, Mantha, Zetterberg, Tatar, Nyquist, Athanasiou, Sheahan (if Datsyuk resigns before the expansion draft then, Datsyuk gets protected).
Defense: Dekeyser, Ouellet, Marchenko
Goalie: Mrazek

- porkchops1977



No team will protect age 36+ players with cap hits over 6 mil
houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
Will holmstrom even have the 2 years pro experience?
- Zmloste



He's played 2 full seasons in Sweden already. It's definitely a pro league, but I'm not sure how the rules work exactly.
Paul_and_Wings
Detroit Red Wings
Location: NY
Joined: 07.21.2014

Mar 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Zetterberg, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Athanasiou, Mantha, and Larkin.

Kronwall, DeKeyser, and Russo.

Petr Griffin

It's sad that apart from DeKe we have no must-keep defensemen...

- TwoPieceFeed



Get out of here, (frank)ing turd.
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Mar 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
He's played 2 full seasons in Sweden already. It's definitely a pro league, but I'm not sure how the rules work exactly.
- houseofcards74


I'm not sure either, if he needs to be protected, I might pick him instead and take a chance at unprotecting Zetterberg.

At this time next year, Zetterberg might not be worth protecting anyways. I can see a sudden decline come quickly with him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
No team will protect age 36+ players with cap hits over 6 mil
- houseofcards74

No need to protect terrible contracts. You are correct.
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Mar 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
Zetterberg, Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Athanasiou, Mantha, and Larkin.

Kronwall, DeKeyser, and Russo.

Petr Griffin

It's sad that apart from DeKe we have no must-keep defensemen...

- TwoPieceFeed



It is pretty sad. I doubt Kronwall will be worth protecting next year. I'm not even sure if he would be worth it this year.

Is Russo a better prospect than Marchenko, Ouellet and Sproul? I don't get to see any Griffens games
TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 1:50 PM ET
It is pretty sad. I doubt Kronwall will be worth protecting next year. I'm not even sure if he would be worth it this year.

Is Russo a better prospect than Marchenko, Ouellet and Sproul? I don't get to see any Griffens games

- porkchops1977

He's better than Ouellet and Sproul for sure. Marchenko? Tough to say.

Marchy has elite defending skills, however, with recent consistency issues. He keeps it very simple and I think struggles to make offensive plays because he isn't comfortable with making those decisions yet. Similar to DeKe, how he never pinched even though he is very valuable in taking care of the puck, in his first couple years.

Russo, though, has a very well-rounded offensive game and is on the above-average dependable game chart. Comparable to Rafalski in that he was an elite offensive defenseman who could be played in late-game scenarios because of his smarts and not his size/crease presence/shot blocking.

I personally prefer Russo because we don't have many/any effective defensemen in our system with much offensive potential. Backman would've been that type of guy, but like Almquist he doesn't care to gain weight, and so he fell out of favor after returning to Sweden from Grand Rapids.
TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 2:01 PM ET
Get out of here, (frank)ing turd.
- Paul_and_Wings

TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 2:27 PM ET
I see you've grown up a bit. Last time I said that, you cried and reported me. (frank)ing someone who is attracted to the opposite sex retard turd. You and Feds91Stammer.
- Paul_and_Wings

You're more dense than a can of Campbell's soup.

I've never cried about anything some jabroni on the internet typed. It's also not my fault if you broke the Rules of Ek and someone reported you. Take responsibility for your actions.

Paul_and_Wings
Detroit Red Wings
Location: NY
Joined: 07.21.2014

Mar 17 @ 3:00 PM ET
You're more dense than a can of Campbell's soup.

I've never cried about anything some jabroni on the internet typed. It's also not my fault if you broke the Rules of Ek and someone reported you. Take responsibility for your actions.


- TwoPieceFeed


That someone was you, because you're a wussy.

Remember the argument about Larkin being Captain? Dumbass.
TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:05 PM ET
That someone was you, because you're a wussy.

Remember the argument about Larkin being Captain? Dumbass.

- Paul_and_Wings

Of course a jabroni such as yourself would call it an "argument". There's no place for debate in your pedantic mind.

Pro Tip: Don't take the internet so seriously, and enroll in some sort of psychiatric care.

Larkin could get hit by a car next week that ends his career. Or he could fail to live up to expectations and get traded. You're not Miss Cleo, so who gives a crap what player is the Red Wings Captain in 2021, until it's actually 2021..? Who gives a crap about a debate that happened 6 months ago?

You, jabroni! Seek help!
porkchops1977
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.23.2013

Mar 17 @ 3:09 PM ET
He's better than Ouellet and Sproul for sure. Marchenko? Tough to say.

Marchy has elite defending skills, however, with recent consistency issues. He keeps it very simple and I think struggles to make offensive plays because he isn't comfortable with making those decisions yet. Similar to DeKe, how he never pinched even though he is very valuable in taking care of the puck, in his first couple years.

Russo, though, has a very well-rounded offensive game and is on the above-average dependable game chart. Comparable to Rafalski in that he was an elite offensive defenseman who could be played in late-game scenarios because of his smarts and not his size/crease presence/shot blocking.

I personally prefer Russo because we don't have many/any effective defensemen in our system with much offensive potential. Backman would've been that type of guy, but like Almquist he doesn't care to gain weight, and so he fell out of favor after returning to Sweden from Grand Rapids.

- TwoPieceFeed


thanks, appreciate that
TwoPieceFeed
Detroit Red Wings
Location: HockeyTown
Joined: 08.13.2009

Mar 17 @ 3:26 PM ET
thanks, appreciate that
- porkchops1977

Of course this is all in my opinion, and Sproul (who I think the least of) could very well end up the best of the bunch while Russo piles up a -30 in his first 6 NHL games.

I'm always interested in sharing thoughts and ideas with fellow intelligent and respectable fans, so you're welcome.